...But Make It Books

...But Make It Books

Join Niccara, host of ...But Make It Books features candid conversations with authors, bookstore owners, and literary figures—bookishly healing through life, one story at a time. Explore the creativity and passion behind the books and people shaping the literary world. Because everything's better when you make it books.
...But Make It BooksJune 02, 2026x
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46:01

Bonus Episode: Was the Fuss Worth It: A Conversation with Phil on Double Dutch Fuss

Join Niccara as she welcomes author, filmmaker, and storyteller Phill to the pod for a conversation that starts with a little boy in Newark who just wanted to jump Double Dutch, and ends up somewhere ...

...But Make It BooksMay 28, 2026x
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48:54

The Stories We Tell Ourselves: A Conversation with Leslie Gray Streeter on Family & Other Calamities

Join Niccara as she welcomes Baltimore-born columnist, author, and truth teller Leslie Gray Streeter to the pod! We talk about her debut novel Family & Other Calamities — a sharp, funny, and deepl...

...But Make It BooksMay 14, 2026x
3
54:39

What We Pass Down: A Conversation with Nikesha Elise Williams on Seven Daughters of Dupree

Join Niccara as she welcomes award-winning author, journalist, and two-time Emmy Award-winning television producer Nikesha Elise Williams to the pod! We talk about her sweeping debut with Simon & ...

...But Make It BooksApril 30, 2026x
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57:20

The Concessions We Make: A She Well Read x But Make It Books Collab

Join Niccara as she links up with Lana and Samra of She Well Read for a conversation that starts with a book and ends up saying everything. We dig into Amy DuBois Barnett's If I Ruled the World — a 90...

...But Make It BooksApril 16, 2026x
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54:19

We Built Different: A Refined & Ratchet x But Make It Books Collab

Season 3 is officially HERE, and we are opening the doors with the collab you didn't know you needed. Join Niccara as she welcomes the dynamic duo behind Refined & Ratchet — Charlee and Nisha — to...

...But Make It BooksApril 02, 202604:19

We Are Coming Back for Season 3

She's back. We're back. And this season? We are not playing around. Welcome to Season 3 of ...But Make It Books — the podcast that makes reading cool, celebrates diverse voices, and brings the culture...

...But Make It BooksJanuary 08, 2026x
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51:25

Hypervisible and Invisible: Paula Chase on The Heights and Who Gets to Be Human

Join Niccara as she welcomes Paula Chase, co-founder of The Brown Bookshelf and author of the Heights series, to the pod! We talk about her novel The Balancing Act , the power of reclaiming language a...

...But Make It BooksDecember 25, 2025x
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46:36

Stewards of the Wilds: How Analeigh Sbrana Empowers Through Fantasy

Join Niccara as she welcomes Sunday Times Bestselling author Analeigh Sbrana to the pod! We talk about her duology "Lore of the Wilds" and "Lore of the Tides", the power of Black heroines discovering ...

...But Make It BooksDecember 11, 2025x
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53:17

"You Wanted a Worshipper, Not a Wife": Dominion with Addie E. Citchens

Join Niccara as she welcomes Addie E. Citchens, inaugural recipient of the Farrar, Straus and Giroux Writer's Fellowship and debut author, to the pod! We talk about her novel Dominion , the cost of ma...

...But Make It BooksOctober 09, 2025x
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44:58

Under the Neon Lights: Big Names, Belonging, and Black Girlhood with Arriel Vinson

Join Niccara as she welcomes Arriel Vinson, Reese's Book Club LitUp Fellow and debut author, to the pod! We talk about her novel-in-verse, "Under the Neon Lights", the power of Black girls with big na...